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Sunday, September 18, 2011

About That Tricky Tray.. I Just Want To Say_Chapter 15 (Open)

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posted by Mr. Tricky Tray @ 9:38 AM  

108 Comments:

  • At September 18, 2011 9:51 AM, Blogger Mr. Tricky Tray said…

    Hi Everyone,

    With the Fall Tricky Tray Season upon us, I thought now was a good time for a new chapter. Keep checking trickytray.com daily as events are coming in each day. Right now I have a 1/2 dozen to post over weekend. And let's get some blogging going on recent events. Always great to hear feedback!

    Also I'm on facebook now..become a friend!

    http://www.facebook.com/mrtrickytray

    Mr. Tricky Tray

     

  • At September 23, 2011 4:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hi!
    Hoping for some input from the Tricky Tray community. Do you enjoy 50/50 raffles? Would you prefer they be 50/25/25, so there'd be 2 winners?

     

  • At September 25, 2011 9:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I love the idea of two prizes, though announcing 50/50 is a lot catchier than get your "50/25/25" tickets.

    The St. Joseph Regional School tricky tray has always had a highly successful 50/50 raffle. Am hoping to win that prize this Friday night!

     

  • At September 25, 2011 9:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I'm headed to the St. Joe's TT, Newton NJ this Friday, too. It is Sussex County's best TT by FAR! The prizes are all $75 and up. There is this enormous food basket to, the Grocery Prize. Could feed my 4 kids for weeks.

     

  • At September 26, 2011 12:17 PM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    Depending on how much your 50/50 can be would determine my answer. If the organization is getting $1000 and $1000 to the winner, 2 $500s would be fine. But if its $500 and then 2 $250s Id say no. Just my opinion :)

     

  • At September 27, 2011 8:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Thanks, Cherry!

     

  • At September 27, 2011 8:53 AM, Anonymous Elizabeth said…

    As the Giving Network gears up to assist local residents whose homes were destroyed by Hurricane Irene and the subsequent floods, the public is encouraged to help by attending a Tricky Tray (Basket Auction) on Saturday, October 22, 2011 in Manville.
    This promises to be a very fun, social evening filled with laughter - and all for a good cause. Admission sold out last year, so get advance admission now! Advance Admission payment must be received by 10/15.
    Your $15 admission includes great refreshments, a sheet of 25 regular tickets and a ticket for door prizes

    The Giving Network is an all volunteer charity which began in 1999 as a band of volunteers worked tirelessly to assist victims of Hurricane Floyd, which devastated Bound Brook and neighboring towns. Soon after, the Giving Network was officially formed and has been helping the neediest members of our community ever since.

    For further information and a partial list of prizes, visit http://givingnetwork.bravehost.com

     

  • At September 27, 2011 8:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    re 50/50
    I'd love to see more happy winners rather than someone I don't know clutching thousands of dollars. Draw a new winner for every $100 available. Those who purchase multiple strips of 50/50 tickets are odds on faves for their numbers to come out more than once. So if your 50/50 goes to $1784 to the winner, you would have 17 winners of $100 and the last would be thrilled to get the $84

     

  • At September 27, 2011 9:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    St Joseph's has dropped tray value to $75 - traditionally all trays were $100 in value. Does anyone know if the larger prize value has also shifted around?

     

  • At September 27, 2011 7:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    How many people usually attend? Are there at least the same amount of baskets as people attending?

     

  • At September 28, 2011 6:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    My friends and I like one big 50/50 prize. Two or three levels are ok also. I would not care for the suggestion of 17 winners of $100. I dont need $100 and probably would not buy tickets for such a 50/50.

     

  • At September 28, 2011 8:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    My mom won the big flat screen TV at St Joseph's in Newton's tricky tray last year and I won a Keurig coffee machine. My sister-in-law also won a basket of Godiva chocolates. It was exciting and fun and lots of baskets lining the hallways and auditorium. It's this Friday and I'm going even though my mom can't come.

     

  • At September 30, 2011 3:24 PM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    Hi everyone. I am posting regarding the November 12 Triple Crown Tricky Tray. In our ad in the POST YOUR EVENT section we have listed some of our prizes.

    We have a "large outdoor gazebo" listed as one of our prizes. I listed it because it was one of the items that we purchased at a major store, along with the grill, patio set, tv etc.

    We are in full swing of wrapping baskets and getting prizes togehter. We opened the gazebo box to read the directions to see how involved the set up was going to be to decide if this was something we were going to assemble and have out on display or something we would leave in the box. Unfortunately, when we looked in the box we noticed several of the supporting bars were bent and two of the bags of screws and bolts needed for assembly were missing! We contacted the store, but because of the time of year it is now there are no gazebos left in stock at their store or another store. They are going to give us a partial refund and we will purchase another item in its place, but I felt the need to explain why there will be no "large outdoor gazebo" at our event as we stated in our advertisement.

    I certainly dont want anyone to think that we listed large prizes to lure people to attend our event.

    I will contact Kevin and ask him to remove that prize from our ad and we are certainly looking to replace it with another large prize, but of half the value.

    On a good note, some more prizes we do have and that are not damaged are :)

    Craftsman toolbox and tools - Digital Camcorder - Baby package including stroller, swing, $100 Your Baby Can Read DVD set and baby items - XBox Bundle with gift card - Galaxy Tablet - Michael Kors purses and Coach bags, just to name a few.

    I wanted to post this sooner, but we were deciding on how to handle it and now that we are getting a partial refund we will be able to purchase something, albeit smaller, in its place.

    Thank you for your understanding and if you have any questions, please dont hesitate to contact me here or at TripleCrownTrickyTray@mail.com

    thank you-
    julie

     

  • At October 01, 2011 8:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Attended SJRS tricky tray last night. Prizes were ok, way too many Vera Bradley bags. The tickets were hard to separate. I heard this from alot of other people as well who's tickets were getting torn when trying to separate them because of the difficulty. For the number of total baskets, this event should have been over by 10:00. I've been to tricky trays where there were double the baskets and finished between 10 & 11. Once again, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DESCRIBE EVERY SINGLE BASKET! THAT'S WHAT THE PROGRAM IS FOR PEOPLE!! I think if it began @ 7:30, people wouldn't have been as exhausted and paying more attention to their numbers towards the end and not have to pick new numbers. Won't go again.

     

  • At October 03, 2011 9:57 AM, Blogger Giving Network said…

    Hey all! A few of the donors for the Giving Network tricky tray are still having trouble deciding what to donate, so they asked us.. and we're asking YOU!
    What's "hot" right now? What lower & higher level prizes would YOU put YOUR tickets in to try & win?

    We want to be sure we've got what you all like! :-D

     

  • At October 03, 2011 1:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    tablets (ipad)
    amex gift cards
    weekend getaways
    appliances
    broadway or sports tickets
    among my favorites

     

  • At October 03, 2011 3:49 PM, Blogger Giving Network said…

    Thanks, anonymous! What sort of appliances do you mean?

     

  • At October 04, 2011 8:51 AM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    Oooh had a big day at the mailbox -HAD TO SHARE! Just added to our prizes - 2 tickets for Rock of Ages on Braodway - 2 tickets for The Adams Family on Broadway and 2 nights for 2 at The Portly Grape near Long Island NY - winery/bed & breakfast - looks goregous!!!!

    Also wrapped a stroller, baby swing and Your Baby Can Read set.

    Countdown has begun!!!

     

  • At October 04, 2011 8:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    stuff you want to win but hate buying for yourself

    toaster ovens, blenders, chopper, food processor, coffee pots, griddles, that kind of stuff.

    pots and pans are nice, baking sheets too.

     

  • At October 05, 2011 8:16 AM, Blogger Giving Network said…

    Thanks for the suggestions, I'll tell our last-minute donors - and hope to see you Oct 22! :-D

    Elizabeth
    http://givingnetwork.bravehost.com/index.html

     

  • At October 07, 2011 10:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Tricky tray season is in full swing! Where's everyone headed this weekend?

     

  • At October 07, 2011 2:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Just found time to comment on St Joseph's tricky tray. I have not attended this event in several years, and I was a little surprised. The trays didn't seem to be $75 in value. The specials certainly were, but not the regular trays. At the start of the event the coffee and tea were free....all of a sudden the sign said $1 and the cups were removed. No free deserts either. I remember when there use to be cheese and fruit trays and a lot more goodies that were free. I guess times have changed. Coffee and Tea at least should be free. Some cookies or cakes whould help also. When I mentioned the coffee and tea at the event, nothing was changed.

     

  • At October 07, 2011 5:00 PM, Blogger NJsharon said…

    Going to the Giving Network in 2 weeks & I would love to see these kinds of prizes...

    lottery tree
    flatscreen TV
    kindle or nook
    bottle of wine
    kids board games package
    keurig
    food blender
    juicer

    Looking forward to the tricky tray!

     

  • At October 08, 2011 8:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    we are starting to plan our tricky tray, and can the person who has written the last few posts about the great prizes they are getting ie broadway tickets, appliances, etc. tell me what you are doing and how we can also solicit such great contributions? Appreciate your help so much. Thank you

     

  • At October 10, 2011 8:28 AM, Blogger Giving Network said…

    Sharon, thanks for the input!
    We've already got almost all the prizes you listed, and hey, maybe we'll pull another one out of our magic hat! Looking forward to seeing you soon!

    http://givingnetwork.bravehost.com/index.html

     

  • At October 11, 2011 11:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Not sure if you are aware, but lottery trees are among the "no-no's" for the state of new jersey.

     

  • At October 11, 2011 12:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    where do you see info about lottery trees being off limits? We've scoured the rules... link appreciated, thanks!

     

  • At October 11, 2011 5:13 PM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    I dont know where the lottery tickets thing is in the rules provided in the link on the tt.com homepage, but when you call the state of nj the guy runs down a list of illegal prizes. They are:
    livestock, tobacco, firearms, cash prizes other than 50/50 and lottery tickets. I can make a call tomorrow and see if they can provide me with a link and I can post it for you.

    Also, someone asked where we got our prizes from tickets, etc. We purchased the 2 sets of Broadway tickets and we worked with a nearby "major department/home store". The store manager was wonderful with us. We just explained our situation and told him what we were looking for. He gave us almost 50-60% off most items. We spent over $2,000 at his store and got over $5,000 worth of prizes. You just need to find a manager that is willing to work with you. We also opened a credit card and saved 20% and he honored our tax exempt status. He also emailed us when it was Friends & Family Days...so we are so thankful to him and that store.

    We mailed over 400 letters to local and corporate solicitors. Keurig will donate a coffeemaker, just go to the Keurig website. Dicks is good - Target - Kohls.

    Main thing is to find people who work at places that can donate or discount. Thats my 2cents worth of advice :)

     

  • At October 11, 2011 5:14 PM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    Groupon too!!!!

     

  • At October 11, 2011 5:20 PM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    Sorry, meant to respond to another post a few days ago and forgot.

    To the anonymous post from Oct 1 regarding the SJRS tricky tray.

    I have found that the last few tt I attended had tickets that were hard to separate. They arent as perforated as they used to be and the paper is thinner. It is just the quality of the tickets that are being fabricated now.

    Side note - I scoured the net looking for red tickets to match our first level of prizes. No one has red. I contacted a company that offered to custom make the tickets for me in red. The regular ticket sheets with 26 tickets are $29 for 500 - they wanted $275 for 500! So, needless to say we went to pink.

    Im not thrilled with the quality of the tickets either, but its just what is out there, without spending a ton of money. Less we spend = more we can make!!!

     

  • At October 12, 2011 12:31 PM, Anonymous trickytraymama said…

    Legalized Games of Chance Control Commission Regulations

    13:47-6.20 Prohibited prizes
    (a) No licensee shall offer or award any prize consisting of
    real estate or any interest therein, bonds, shares of stock,
    securities or evidences of indebtedness, weapons, live animals
    (except a gift certificate redeemable for live, edible
    seafood), foreign or domestic coins (except collector pieces
    or sets that are marketed as such and are clearly not intended
    for use as legal tender), tobacco products, motor vehicle
    leases, or any merchandise refundable in any of the foregoing
    or as money or cash.

    That last part that says merchandise refundable in any of the foregoing or as money or cash would include lottery tickets and money trees.

    Feel free to call Scott at 973-273-8000 for further explaination.

     

  • At October 12, 2011 1:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What do you guys think of "children welcome" at tricky trays.... Was looking for some upcoming events to attend and noticed I was seeing this more and more... Right now I'm thinking of sticking to "adults only" postings but was wondering how others felt about it...

     

  • At October 12, 2011 5:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    It would depend on if I wanted to bring my own kids. If not, don't think I'd want to go to a kid-friendly one - there's always at least one person who lets their little ones run around screaming.

     

  • At October 14, 2011 12:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    WAY too many dinner/tricky trays in Oct.......thats a lot of money...$30-$80.....some are okay..but I couldn't possibly justify spending that much money unless its a major 'cause'

     

  • At October 17, 2011 3:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Attended the Netcong Fireman's Tricky Tray at Lenape Valley High School. What a great job you did. The prizes were great and the prices were reasonable. Everyone was friendly and the event moved right along. We had a really nice evening. Good luck in the future.

     

  • At October 19, 2011 12:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Great comments :) Those are the main things that can make any tt a success - reasonable prices with great prizes, friendly volunteers and moving it along - amen!!!

     

  • At October 21, 2011 7:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    wow, what is the record for the most tricky trays in one weekend? There sure are a lot this weekend. I'll be going to one tomorrow, wish I could afford to go to more. I've had to cut back to just a couple a year and have cut out the dinner events in favor of the less expensive ones. I save my coins and cash them in for tricky trays. good luck to everyone this weekend.

     

  • At October 21, 2011 7:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    wow, what is the record for the most tricky trays in one weekend? There sure are a lot this weekend. I'll be going to one tomorrow, wish I could afford to go to more. I've had to cut back to just a couple a year and have cut out the dinner events in favor of the less expensive ones. I save my coins and cash them in for tricky trays. good luck to everyone this weekend.

     

  • At October 25, 2011 7:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Discount Coupons as prizes? What does everyone else think about this? I went to a tt last Saturday and there were close to a dozen level 1 & 2 prizes that were $50 and $100 discount coupons for party entertainment (lizards or music), on the table was a paper indicating the name of the thing and amount, but no description of what it actually was for. Looking it up the next day online, I found out more and saw that they charged over $200 for an event. So if you "won" that prize it would still cost you a lot of money. I don't think a coupon should be a prize. A gift card is fine if one can potentially use it without having to spend more such as a restaurant or store coupon.

     

  • At October 27, 2011 1:07 AM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    I completely agree with you. I hate to say no to people who want to make a donation, but when someone gives you a $50 off a purchase of $100 or more it isnt really a prize. A few of the larger corporations were offering these as prizes. We accepted them but did not feature them as main prizes...we put them in prizes that already reached the goal price range.

    But, now I will tell you about a great prize I am happy about. "Extreme Couponing" is the name and is a Level 1 prize which is $75-$100. We have been clipping coupons for a few months, checking to make sure the expiration dates are at least into 2012. There are over 100 coupons in there and Im getting more every day. In addition to that prize we have a 2012 Entertianment Book and a $50 gift card to a food store. Those last 2 prizes are worth $75 so all of the coupons really dont go towards the value of the prize, but someone is going to be very happy with a ton of coupons!!!

    We are just 15 days away, Im so excited!!!!

     

  • At October 27, 2011 2:27 PM, Anonymous Janine said…

    Just wanted to thank everyone who came out to our TT on Saturday, October 22 (yes, there were a LOT of TTs on that weekend!). We hope everyone who attended enjoyed themselves and if you liked our TT - don't forget to vote for us for the Best TT of 2011. Thanks for all your support! Animal Protection League of NJ

     

  • At October 28, 2011 12:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    re: Casino Nights

    these can be done multiple ways...if you are posting one please specify the format.

    Some are tricky tray format and I would guess you are doing that if you post here...but if not please specify.

    They can also be done silent/regular auction.

     

  • At November 02, 2011 9:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Why do some tricky tray groups have to charge so much money for a single sheet of tickets....@ EVERY LEVEL!!?? I just don't get it. Do they not want people to spend more than less?....On top of already paying a fair amount for the entry. Are we not trying to boost the economy & entice people to want to have a fun night out? I'm all for supporting charities & organizations, but come on...Really?? People may attend, but the odds of them spending as much as they normally would go way down.

     

  • At November 02, 2011 3:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Anonymous - what to you is a reasonable amount for a sheet of tickets at each level?

     

  • At November 02, 2011 4:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Found this one & it is one of the best I've seen: might even attend this tricky tray.
    Combo pack $20.00 - 4 sheets, 3 specials and 2 super specials.
    50/50 - $1.00 ea /15 for $5.00
    Tray sheets-(25 per)-1 for $3/10 for $24
    Specials- $2/3 for $5/ 6 for $10
    Super Specials - $5 ea

    Here's another good value I found:
    Pink tickets $5/sheet 3/$12 ~ White Tickets $7/sheet 3/$18
    Value Packs $25 3 sheets white 3 sheets pink.
    Mega Prize Tickets $10 3/$25.
    • Pink Prize Baskets & Pink Gift Certificates UP TO $75 value.
    • White Prize Baskets and White Gift Certificates UP TO $150 value.

     

  • At November 02, 2011 6:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    but you understand, you end up with the same chance of winning if everyone puts more tickets in, right? There'll just be more tickets in every container.

     

  • At November 02, 2011 6:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I disagree with the above posting. If tickets are cheaper per sheet a person can at least get 1 ticket into each prize on the lower level. I totally disagree that it is the same chance of winning. I believe it totally defeats the fundraising ability of the organization. If I go to a tt and the prices are high, I ALWAYS spend less than I would if the prices were lower. And second I NEVER go back to the ones with high prices ever again. Therefore, in the long run, you lose money from me and my group initially and then you lose again when we don't return the following year. There is no need to gouge people at a fundraiser, they will not spend and they will not return. I know for a fact I am not alone in this thinking.

     

  • At November 02, 2011 6:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I disagree with the above posting. If tickets are cheaper per sheet a person can at least get 1 ticket into each prize on the lower level. I totally disagree that it is the same chance of winning. I believe it totally defeats the fundraising ability of the organization. If I go to a tt and the prices are high, I ALWAYS spend less than I would if the prices were lower. And second I NEVER go back to the ones with high prices ever again. Therefore, in the long run, you lose money from me and my group initially and then you lose again when we don't return the following year. There is no need to gouge people at a fundraiser, they will not spend and they will not return. I know for a fact I am not alone in this thinking.

     

  • At November 02, 2011 10:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To the above poster.....NICELY PUT!! Yes you most definitely are not alone in your thinking.

     

  • At November 04, 2011 1:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Referring to the discout coupons. They are donated, and are still a good value if you win it and would like to have the people come and do a show. You are still getting $50 - $100 off of a $200+ show. I think that it's a good prize for those that want it and those that don't, shouldn't waste their tickets on it. If you have a $25 Gift Certificate for somewhere, usually, you wind up spending more anyway (like grocery or gas GCs), it's the same thing.

     

  • At November 04, 2011 2:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    to the poster above about the discount coupons - ok, sure, AS LONG as the fact that it's a coupon is well stated, clearly, on the basket, so the potential winners realize what they're getting.

     

  • At November 04, 2011 6:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Re Discount coupons: not a good prize. Most of these discounts are not shown in a way that people understand that it is a coupon. The winner never intended to pay additional and in the end does not claim the prize, has a bad feeling about misrepresented 'prizes' at that event and dislikes by default the company that donated the 'coupon'.

    re affordable prices for tickets: Some event committees are just hard-hearted in their greed. They drop the value of their trays because donations are down, they stop offering anything (even free coffee) to their guests who attend the event even after charging them an admittance fee for getting in the door and they glibly defend offering coupons as prizes while they bump up the ticket prices each year.
    Very few people feel the need to drop a ticket in every bag. But don't think we are stupid. Good events have not raised their ticket prices for years. Those who attend walk in the door knowing they have $50 or $100 to spend. What you charge will not change that because that is all the money they have budgeted for the event. They will remember and not return to events that over charge for tickets.

     

  • At November 05, 2011 9:29 AM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    Lots of interesting posts about ticket prices. There is nothing worse then attending a tt and seeing a level with $50 prizes, at best, and they have over 75 of those baskets, yet tickets are 15 for $20. As prize values increase, so do the ticket prices but the quantity of tickets decreases. Then the grand prizes are on a table with 10-15 prizes and those tickets range from $5-10 EACH. That is rough.

    When coming up with ticket prices, my suggestion, look at the value of the prizes on the level, the amount of prizes you have there and then what it would cost to get tickets in 75% of the prizes.

    Our tt is next saturday and we decided this year to only use the 26 ticket sheets for every level of prizes. At program print, we had 87 level 1 prizes - nothing less than $75 in value, most with $100 - and those sheets are $5 each. You get one with admission so there are 26 right there. If you wanted to try and get 1 ticket in each basket you would only need to spend $10 and get 52 more tickets - youd have 87 tickets. Of course people dont put one in each, and some put 5 in one..but that, to us, is a fair price.
    As values quality of baskets increase (value), quantity decreases ( amount). Level 2 are $100-$200 - at print we had 70 of those. Those sheets are $8 for 26. So if you buy 3 sheets for $24 you have 78 tickets...very fair. You get the point :)
    Yes, of course, we do these as fund raisers, but we also want it to be a fun night out and one youd want to return to because you felt like the prizes were good, the prices were fair, the volunteers were helpful and it moved along quickly...oh yeah, and winning a few prizes always helps!!!

    Freebies are always appreciated, even if its just coffee, desserts, water or snacks :)

    Have a great Saturday everyone - see some of you next week!!!!
    ~julie

     

  • At November 05, 2011 9:35 PM, Anonymous maryann said…

    what do you think about have a trade table at the end of a tricky tray. i know we put in for what we supposedly want , but sometimes we really want something else. of course the trade would be for the same level prizes you never know, you could end up going home with the prize you really wanted

     

  • At November 07, 2011 5:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    re Trade table: Many people leave when the regular tray drawing finishes (because they didn't have $ to put in the upper levels, or simply weren't interested. An interesting method might be if the tray is promptly identified as wanting to trade. Maybe put it on stage and open it to 1 for 1 trade with any other tray already won at that level.

    Personally I only put in for trays I want to win. There is some real frustration felt when people who put tickets in every bag and then complain that they win what is of no use to them. The problem is there were a lot of people who really did want/need that prize. I know people who literally have thrown prizes away because it was of no worth to them. arrrrrgh. Which brings me back to having a request if there are any trays up for trade and getting this done before people walk out the door. It would be fun if whoever has an unopened tray could claim the prize. Their tray could be accepted or again put up for trade. Assuming the trays were not cherry picked with some items removed, that might be a fun event that wouldn't take up a lot of time.

     

  • At November 07, 2011 7:45 PM, Anonymous maryann said…

    i agree , sometimes i am in a rush a put in for anything at that will end up what i do not need or want and yet there were lots of tickets so someone would have liked/loved itc

     

  • At November 08, 2011 1:13 PM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    I have 2 tickets for the Triple Crown Tricky Tray this Saturday! They will go to the first person to contact me via MY CELL at 372.841.1109 If you couldnt get tickets and you are interested, please text me ASAP - they are $15 each. Thank you :)

     

  • At November 08, 2011 1:13 PM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    Sorry, 732.841.1109

     

  • At November 08, 2011 3:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Re: Discount Coupons. I was concerned that this may have been a comment from our TT as it was the same weekend. We had our baskets clearly marked with HUGH letters on a 5 x 7 piece of paper that said... "$50 Discount Coupon off a Performance"...and in the Brochure it read "$50 Discount Coupon", so I was a little upset that they said it was not "mentioned anywhere". I am not sure how much more information was needed?
    If the person was not interested in a "$50 Discount Coupon off a performace" (which to me, clearly indicates, that more $ would be needed), then they should not put a ticket in.

    They did neglect to mention that they got a 1st level sheet & FREE dessert on their table for their entrance fee.

    Sorry... just venting... a lot of work goes into these and things like this burn me up.

     

  • At November 08, 2011 3:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Re: Discount Coupons.

    I was concerned that this may have been a comment from our TT as it was the same weekend.

    We had our baskets clearly marked with HUGE letters on a 5 x 7 piece of paper that said... "$50 Discount Coupon off a Performance"...and in the Brochure it read "$50 Discount Coupon", so I was a little upset that they said it was not "mentioned anywhere". I am not sure how much more information was needed?

    If the person was not interested in a "$50 Discount Coupon off a performace" (which to me, clearly indicates, that more $ would be needed), then they should not put a ticket in.

    They did neglect to mention that they got a 1st level sheet & FREE dessert on their table for their entrance fee.

    Sorry... just venting... a lot of work goes into these and things like this burn me up.

     

  • At November 08, 2011 9:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    to the previous poster, don't know which was yours, the one I went to in Bergenfield, I had also gone to last year and was very excited to go again, but it was obvious it was not organized by the same people. Last year had many better prizes at the higher levels, desserts were a box of Entenmans donuts vs this year a package of no name oreo type cookies. and while there may have been a label on the prize, there was no way to know what a performance by Peas and Carrots was. and why so many of the same exact thing? I know that a lot of work goes into these things, but appreciate the feedback, it's honest and if you see more or less people next year, you may know why.

     

  • At November 10, 2011 4:03 PM, Anonymous maryann said…

    did u get rid of the triple crown tickets yet

     

  • At November 10, 2011 9:27 PM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    i did but may have one more...i replied to an email, best way to get me now is via text or call 732 841 1109

     

  • At November 11, 2011 3:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Discount Coupons...

    Yes, it seems that the Tricky Tray you were talking about was mine. It was a benefit for the Boy Scouts in Troop 139. All proceeds from this Tricky Tray benefit go to our boys. ie, Summer camp fees, trip costs, camping equipment, community service projects, Eagle Scout projects, etc.

    It was most definitely organized by the same people. And I am proud to say it. The two of us that put the whole event together, worked extremely hard this year and until now, we have heard nothing but good comments from attendees.

    Prizes... I am sorry you did not enjoy the prizes. Unfortunately, due to lack of business donations, we did have a smaller amount of prizes. However, I don't think that 342 is a terrible number for an amount of baskets. With or without the Discount Coupons, we still had well over 300+ very nice baskets and prizes. We did have quite a few higher end prizes last year, but that is because they were donated. As we are a non-profit, we just don't have the funds to buy more expensive prizes. If people don't donate, we can only do so much. We had so many of the coupons because the company was generous enough to offer them to us. There were many parents who won these coupons that were thrilled. Including one of our own Scout parents who plans on using it toward a presentation of the Lizard Guys at their Cub Scout Blue & Gold Dinner this year.

    Desserts... Desserts are provided to each table as a perk. So there is no guarantee of what it will be each year. I would think free cookies are better than nothing.

    Perks… One of our new, and VERY well received, perks this year was for people that pre-reserved Really Important People (RIP) tables in advance. Those tables received some wonderful extra perks (such as: buy 7 get 1 free tickets, soda, chips, donuts, crayons, etc.) as part of a promotion for getting their tables reserved early. If you would like to send me your e-mail, I would be happy to send you our flyer early next year so that you can get the early bird rates, better perks, etc. We will be doing the RIP (Really Important People) tables again.

    Anyone that reserved their entrance ticket(s) in advance received a 2nd level prize sheet. People, who paid at the door, received a 1st level prize sheet. Anyone that donated a prize to the Tricky Tray was given a COMP entrance ticket and a 1st level prize sheet. So we really did try to make in enticing.

    Prize Labels...We do appreciate your feedback. My colleague and I discussed it and we don't feel that there really is a way of explaining EACH and every prize. We think that we already put more information on prizes than most tricky trays provide. We will take into consideration your comments about the descriptions of each prize and your dissatisfaction with donated discount coupons.

    I would like to apologize if you felt you did not have a good time or the prizes were not good. We do strive to do our best each and every year. We always hope that everyone goes home with something they wanted and if not, at least they had some fun.

    Unfortunately, I feel that the purpose of the Tricky Tray has really changed. They are supposed to be about having fun with friends while helping out a worthy cause. At least that is why I go to Tricky Trays. To have fun with friends and hopefully help a group who has worked hard to raise money for their cause.

    Sincerely,
    Diana V (cecile033@aol.com)

     

  • At November 12, 2011 2:34 AM, Blogger Christine said…

    Does anyone have any tickets for the Triple Crown that they can't use???

     

  • At November 13, 2011 9:47 AM, Blogger Mr. Tricky Tray said…

    Went to my first tricky tray this year, "Triple Crown Tricky Tray" Colonia, NJ ! Julie did a fantastic job! Great Prizes, decorations, organization and a huge 50/50 plus all the suprise features to win made it a fun afternoon/evening. Even came home a winner! For those of you that missed it, definately keep it in mind for next year.

     

  • At November 13, 2011 7:18 PM, Anonymous trickytraycherry said…

    Kevin - it was great to meet you, so happy you came and even won! Our hard work paid off and we made $$$ for CHS and had a great time while doing it. Thanks again for all of your help and support :)
    ~julie

     

  • At November 16, 2011 10:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I attended the Triple Crown Tricky Tray in Colonia, NJ. What a class act. Julie, Cheri and Gina you did a wonderful job. Prizes were excellent and the event was so well run that I can't wait until the next one. Every little detail was covered. I've attended many Tricky Trays and this was the best one ever.

     

  • At November 19, 2011 6:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    In the past I've read spirited commenting here about cheaters hitting central NJ events. We recently attended a Sussex co event where I kept running into conversations about cheaters in attendance. I was shocked to hear organizers had called the police to have them removed and banned specific people from their future events. Any event that went to that extent, should be letting everyone know. This was not a conversation with a single person. It was the conversation you heard standing in line to get in, standing in line to buy 50/50 tickets and while dropping tickets in. There were so many random people complaining about 'cheaters'

    I'm hoping this was unusual, but if we have cheating now in Northern NJ events what can we do to stop it? I'm sure organizers would appreciate knowing what kind of trouble has happened and what protection would work. How bout using a neighborhood watch approach where attendees are requested to report anyone reaching in and tampering with tickets already put in bins. No one should be touching anyone else's tickets ever.

     

  • At November 26, 2011 1:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    When i ran a TT, only NON PROFITS could run a TT.....so buying prizes for a TT is an issue for ALL orgs...

    342 is A LOT of baskets....

     

  • At November 26, 2011 11:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Anyone know of any tt's this weekend? I'm remembering that we used to have a few - gave a great opportunity to take visiting family out to experience a NJ
    We have lost a number of the smaller church and Fire Dept events do to the strain on a smaller and older support group. They just couldn't do it any more. Though there are smaller events out there that don't get listed here. Thanks in advance, to anyone who willing to share. and, happy thanksgiving

     

  • At November 29, 2011 8:25 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Anyone in need of empty baskets for upcoming Tricky Tray you are planning? Variety of sizes! Please email me at drmgirl75@aol.com.. I'm located in Morris County area. Thanks!

     

  • At November 30, 2011 9:10 AM, Anonymous Linda Mohr said…

    If anyone is interested in running their own Tricky Tray Fundraiser, I've written a book called "How to Run a Tricky Tray Fundraiser" which is available in PDF form for $7.50 or via mail for $10.00.
    E-mail me at lcmtrickytray@lcmohr.com for more information.
    And good luck, everyone!
    Linda

     

  • At December 03, 2011 11:41 PM, Anonymous MetroCheer said…

    We are happy to report that our event For MetroCheer on Tuesday, December 6th at St. Vincent's Robinson Hall in Bayonne is SOLD OUT.
    THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH to all who bought tickets for this annual event. Thank you too, to all who wanted tickets and can not join us. We hope you can join us next year.
    Happy Holidays to all.
    MetroCheer committee.

     

  • At December 09, 2011 11:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    3 serious issues with a TT tonight...

    they offered a door prize ticket in exchange for donating food or toys to charity....some people got 1 ticket no matter how much they donated...some people got 1 ticket per item..

    the caller was dumping the tickets in the garbage even before reading the winning number...once a major prize wasn't claimed--but the rest of the tickets were already in the garbage..

    you need to have a few (approx 3) buckets to draw from---and leave the tickets in the bucket until the winner is confirmed..

    WAY OVER PRICED on the main table and prize categories not well organized--$10 for a sheet of 26 tickets--with prize values from $20-$120...many places charge $1 for a sheet if the value is less than $50....prizes should have been combined or have another level or prizes...under/over 50..$2 per sheet for the lower prizes $5 for the higher prizes

    the caller developed a new game the night before...how did that make it into the permit?

    door prizes were better than some main table prizes ($25-$50 value)

    TOO MANY similar prizes-- a LOT of designer purses/clutches as well as alcohol based packages..more variety is needed for a wider range of interests.....

    desserts---typically, desserts are placed on platters and delivered to tables.....the coffee and dessert was put out late---and people had to leave their table to get dessert....

    event started late---at 7pm...announcer needed to push stragglers along..



    minor issues...a lot of commentary--naming and describing all the prizes and them some commentary on winners she knew...took 2 and a half hours for about 200 prizes...LOUD..especially for people sitting by the speakers..the venue needs to look into placing speakers in all corners so the 1 doesn't have to be so loud..near the end the caller seemed to be yelling


    poor variety in the 'grand prize level' about 1/3- 1/2 involved going to a location in New York/elsewhere instead of an object

     

  • At December 28, 2011 6:11 PM, Blogger Mr. Tricky Tray said…

    Hi..Links just went live on site for voting. www.trickytray.com/events.htm

    Happy New Year!

     

  • At January 02, 2012 1:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Not so sure I will be voting for a "Best 2010 TT" this year. I decided to go to some of the 2010 bet TT's and generally found them to either be overpriced, and/or the gifts not very interesting. It's apparent that some of the more popular ones have their own fan club, but the extent to which their comments are truly representative of the things that make for great tt's, well, I didn't see it. But each to his own preferences. Hoping for some new events in the New Year!

     

  • At January 05, 2012 1:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well here it is, 2012! Hope all Tricky Tray's are a success! My New Year's Resolution...I will not pay more then $10 admission for ANY tricky tray event. Recession is a tough thing and as much as I would like to support ALL of them, I just can't. Think of the logic, people will purchase a good amount of tickets if they don't have to spend on dinner, and that is your profit! I like to buy a good amount of tickets and with the admission price so high I could only buy a few. Dinner Tricky Tray's are nice, but not necessary. What happened to a fun, inexpensive night out with friends? Another area I will support will be "children allowed". I have 2 well behaved children under the age of 18 but over the age of 12 and they have a great time at these events. I do my part by purchasing tickets for them as well as mine. Please bring back the $10 and under admission, no dinner and children allowed. (Yes, children are allowed at tricky trays, it is NOT considered gambling.)

     

  • At January 06, 2012 4:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I agree with the above poster. I am no longer going to go to the dinner tricky trays. I can no longer afford to pay for the dinner I don't want and also buy the amount of tickets I like to buy. I would much rather go where it is reasonable to get in and then I can buy all the tickets I want.

     

  • At January 07, 2012 3:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Some great thougts:
    why would the event committee want to set up a situation where so much money is going to overpriced caterer instead of your organization? Ditch the dinner setting, offer something like portions of premade subs (inexpensive but relatively healthy food for sale)instead of just trays and trays of sweet dessert items.

    We are buying tickets to support your organization! Ditch the gouging of an 'Admission fee' to donate to your event. Such greed. There are other events people can and will go to.

    no matter which event comes out on top, people support events that move them whether they are popular with the small vocal crowd here or not
    Voting is not so meaningful as it used to be.

     

  • At January 08, 2012 9:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Has anyone completed the donation request for Disney Hopper Passes? It was not the easiest form to navigate.

     

  • At January 09, 2012 8:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    When creating ticket packages why not be generous with the amount of tickets you include in the packages? Don't you understand you will sell a lot more packages if people got a good "bang-for-the-buck" deal? Tickets cost nothing (compared to the price charged for them), why not be generous? (This is long and calculated so read through the entire post to get a full understanding of what I'm saying.)

    Here is a just a suggestion and examples on how I determine if I go to a tricky tray or not based solely on ticket prices.

    Ticket Prices:
    Regular Tickets: $5/sheet of 25 tickets
    Grand: $5/each or 5/$20
    Super Grand: $10/each or 3/$25

    Ticket Packages Available:
    Small: $25 value for $20: 1 reg, 2 grand, 1 super

    1 regular ticket = $5 per sheet

    +

    2 Grand tickets 5/$20 = $4 each

    +

    1 Super ticket 3/$25 = $8.33 each

    = $21.33

    It's a savings of $1.33 not $5

    (You cannot use the single ticket value when calculating the savings.) Why not make the package include 1 regular at $5 sheet + 5 Grand tickets $20 + 3 super tickets which would have a value of $35 for $20?

    The following will be calculated the same way:

    Medium: $40 value for $35: 2 reg, 4 grand, 1 super

    $5 + $5 + $4 + $4 + $4 + $4 + $8.33 = $34.33

    It this case it cost less to buy individual tickets. You are paying 67 cents more if you buy the package. Why not make this package 3 regular sheets $15 + 5 Grand $20 + 3 supers $25. Here you would have a $60 value for $35.

    Large: $60 value for $50: 3 reg, 6 grand, 2 super

    $5 + $5 + $5 + (6 grand tickets = 5/$20 + $4) $24 + $16.66 = $55.66

    In this case this is the best deal, however, not great. A $60 value for $50 for a savings of $4.34.

    Why not make this one your "I can't pass it up" deal? Give a good amount of tickets and people will get multiples of this package. For example, 3 regulars $15 + 8 grand $40 + 6 supers $50 this would be a $110 value package for $50!!!

    A package like this sells itself. I will absolutely buy 2 or 3. In the above packages before my suggestions I would just buy a few regular sheets at $5 each spending a total of $20 or $25. Compare that to spending $100 to $150!

    Please, this is just a guideline I follow and not something I'm telling you to do.

    How does the Tricky Tray community feel about this and what do you like to see?

     

  • At January 10, 2012 9:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think overpricing works against event. When they put together big cost packages that reduce the pricing by half, it turns more people off. Anyone used to purchasing $25 worth of tickets is not going to magically spend $150 because it's such a great deal.

    Why not price tickets fairly - starting at 3 or 4/$10 for regular trays and scale the larger ones back to $5 or 4/20 for the grand prize

    And then back off the packages, charging people for a seat at a table, the admission charge to get in the door to then buy inflated tickets. Just price the tickets fairly with a package deal at each level.

     

  • At January 11, 2012 8:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I agree completely with all of your points. Organizers don't realize they will make so much more money that way.

     

  • At January 11, 2012 5:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Im hoping someone can help me with this ... I am running a tricky tray for the first time EVER !!! Stress is all I can say LOL. I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how many tickets we should purchase. We obviously don't want to run out of tickets, but we also don't want to be left with a ton of them either. I know that small prize tickets are sold in quantities of either 500 or 1000. We will max out our event at 250 people. Is there some kind of formula to use to figure out how many to buy? I hope this makes sense and there is some one out there that can guide me. Thanks soooooo much Sue

     

  • At January 12, 2012 12:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Remember that unopened packs of tickets can be returned so make sure you save the receipt.

    Buying tickets depends on how many will be in your ticket packages (if you decide to have packages) and if you are giving each guest one sheet at the entrance. Assuming 250 people, 500 sheets per pack, half of the pack goes to the entrance. Ticket packages range from 1 to 5 tickets. then you need some extra to sell at the event. If you decide to use ticket sheets for 2 levels then you need 2 different colors. For level one tickets I would buy 3 packs of 500 ticket sheets. For level 2 I would buy 2 packs of 500 ticket sheets. (Level 2 costs more so you want to put less in the packages.) As for rolls of tickets buy 2 of each color you need. I hope this helps.

     

  • At January 12, 2012 12:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Is a tricky tray considered gambling in NJ? Were can we find the laws /rules?

     

  • At January 12, 2012 2:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Thank you to the kind soul that replied to my "FORMULA" question. I now have a starting point. Thank you !!!

     

  • At January 13, 2012 7:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You can find the NJ Laws by going to the New Jersey Games of Chance Control Commission website. (do a search and it will be found)

     

  • At January 13, 2012 8:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To the poster who is running a tricky tray for the first time EVER, why not try to get at least your Level 1 tickets donated? There are companies who still do this as it is a great form of advertisement for them and not overly expensive. We've gotten our Level 1's donated now for the last 3 years! Just a suggestion to help w/cutting your expenses.

     

  • At January 13, 2012 8:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Tricky Trays are raffles. Therefore, the organization must be registered and secure the appropriate municipal license if interested in conducting. Folks under the age of 18 are allowed to attend but can not participate in the raffles, nor assist the organization in the conduct.

     

  • At January 14, 2012 3:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    HAPPY TAILS ANIMAL RESCUE PARAMUS NJ IS HAVING THEIR TRICKY TRAY FEBRUARY 24, COME AND HAVE FUN. WE LOOK OVER THE BLOGS TO GET GREAT IDEAS AND TRY VERY HARD, FROM PRICING TO PRIZES THNAKS FOR THE INPUT

     

  • At January 14, 2012 9:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    yes, a TRICKY TRAY is gambling

     

  • At January 15, 2012 11:51 AM, Anonymous jembecca said…

    How do TT organizers get their BIG prizes? We don't have money to lay out; one of the reasons we are thinking of having a TT.

     

  • At January 23, 2012 12:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hi, does anybody know of any TT's this week that are not listed on this site? I really want to go to one, but the pickins are limited. Appreciate feedback, Thx!

     

  • At January 23, 2012 9:34 PM, Anonymous Kim said…

    Looking for a fabulous tricky tray, be sure to mark your calendar for Frelinghuysen Township School's Tricky Tray on February 3rd. This event is held every other year, so we are able to offer fantastic prizes. I have read all of your suggestions and we are looking forward to an exciting evening.

     

  • At January 25, 2012 10:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Kim:
    do you offer advance tickets? Partly this is whether you have reduced price tickets, but also if you sell out it's a way for people to assure getting in the door even if they can't get there early.

     

  • At January 25, 2012 11:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Not sure where your question is going. Loosely many would say, sure TTs are gambling. But is it gambling? Absolutely not if you want an IRS view. A raffle is distinctly different from gambling and you can not deduct the cost of your tickets to reduce the value of any gambling wins. Also IRS considers it tax fraud to deduct the cost of raffle tickets as a charitable donation.

     

  • At January 25, 2012 11:25 PM, Anonymous Kim said…

    With regards to advanced ticket sales at the Frelinghuysen Twp. School Tricky Tray, we were advised that you are not supposed to sell tickets prior to the event. I am not sure how everyone else seems to do it.

     

  • At January 28, 2012 12:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Kim -
    Excellent! There are some lowlifes who love to get a few presale tickets so they can match them from their own stock of common colors. Most events use the same bulk purchase sheets without any unique markings and really need to have a list of specific series number tickets have been sold at the event. Whoever draws tickets has to understand that numbers outside that list are to be disqualified and not announced.
    The responsibility for fairness requires a determination that each ticket drawn is not bent or marked in any way and it must be within the sequence numbers that were sold.
    Many events make no effort to keep track and include odds and ends of ticket packs from prior events.

     

  • At January 29, 2012 10:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    There are plenty of events but they are $40 and up just to get in!!! Horrendous!! I will NOT go to these!! Stop having dinner events!! (I will spend $25 on tickets at these events) Bring back the fun, inexpensive Tricky Trays. You will make a lot more money since the entrance fee will go to your organization. I will only pay $15 and BELOW to get in. I will spend $100 and more on tickets....do the math...

     

  • At February 08, 2012 12:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    TrickyTray.com just announced Best Tricky Tray of 2011...I won't spoil it..check it out

     

  • At February 18, 2012 12:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    if you want to pre sale the actual raffle tickets...send a coupon that lists what tickets the person is entitled to when they arrive....make sure to number and name ID the coupons and keep a master list in case someone tries to make a copy---maybe have handwritten info on it

     

  • At February 19, 2012 7:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I too cannot stand to see the $30+ admission for a TT. With that price, I am left with a small amount to spend on tickets, which is really what I go for, not the food. If you want to attend a great TT, Avona Elementary in Easton, PA is having one on 2/25. Admission is free, kids are welcome and tickets are really reasonable. There are great prizes and 4 special raffles that include a pair of diamond stud earrings, broadway tickets, VIP tickets to be in audience at the Wendy Williams Show and a Blackberry. You will not walk away disappointed!

     

  • At February 20, 2012 2:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hello,
    I am co-running a tricky tray for a school this year for the very first time. We are about a month from our date, and we're trying to come up with a list of jobs that need to be taken care of on the night of, so that we can ensure we have enough people working on that night. We have capacity for about 400 people, and there are 4-level prizes as well as 50/50, raffle, lottery hats, etc. Any suggestions you may have about managing on the NIGHT OF your tricky tray would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks so much!

     

  • At February 22, 2012 4:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Has anyone attended the St. There school Tricky Tray, Succasunna NJ? They have great prizes but was wondering about the cost, value, and how organized it is. I believe its in Novembe, annually.

     

  • At February 22, 2012 4:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Has anyone attended the St. Therese school TT, Succasunna, NJ? They have great prizes but was wondering about the cost, value and how organized it is. I believe its in November, annually. I know they allow a preview time slot to avoid long lines and to begin on time.

     

  • At February 23, 2012 9:51 AM, Anonymous Louise said…

    For those looking for great door prizes we always purchase items from trickyttay.com. Why not support the site that gets us all our advertising. We give away a tshirt and mug.

     

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